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Big Agnes Air Core Pad

Hiking & Camping > Sleeping Bags & PadsRated: **** by 98 reviews.

ProLite Gear

Big Agnes REM Air Core Sleeping Pad incredibly light and comfortable. The Big Agnes REM Air Core is made of a durable 70 denier nylon fabric. I-beam construction provides longitudinal rigidity and gives shape to the pad. The I-beam construction also allows air to flow freely in and out, and reduces inflation time to a quick two minutes. The Air Core pads stuff to the size of a Nalgene water bottle and weighs a mere 22oz (medium), yet provides a whopping 2.5” thick backcountry bed. When used with any Big Agnes sleeping bag, the Air Core pad can be left in the pad sleeve, deflated and stuffed with the bag right into its stuff sack. How

Specifications
20" x 48" x 2.5"dark red35 degrees16oz$44.95
20" x 72" x 2.5"dark red35 degrees22oz$49.95
20" x 78" x 2.5"dark red35 degrees25oz$54.95
20" x 72" x 2.5" mummydark red35 degrees19oz$49.95
20" x 78" x 2.5" mummydark red35 degrees22oz$54.95

Features:

  • Air Core pads are not self-inflating
  • All REM Air Core Pads come with a stuff sack, repair kit, and a 100% guarantee
  • Durable 70 denier nylon fabric top and bottom protects against abrasions and punctures
  • Durable, water repellent (DWR) coating sheds water and stains
  • Exclusive: Non-breakable, EZ-Flate brass valve for easy closure
  • Full length 2.5" thick pad that is lightweight and packs small
  • I-beam construction makes inflation quick and easy
  • Internal polyurethane (PU) coating makes pad waterproof
  • Non breakable brass valve seals tight due to its fine threading
  • Packs down to a compact 4" x 8" or 4.5" x 8" size
  • The I-beam construction technique is functionally superior to the typical welded-through construction of other air mats. Die cut holes in each I-beam allow air to flow freely between chambers as you move around for constant support and comfort.
  • Use a closed cell foam pad with any of our Air Core Pads for extra insulation, especially when camping on frozen ground, snow or cold rock. The foam pad provides a barrier against the cold from the ground.

Mountains Plus Outdoor Gear

Side sleepers rejoice! This is another recommended piece of gear by Outside Magazine's gear buying guide. We're not surprised, we've been big BA fans before any of the big national chains even jumped on board! In fact, Mountains Plus has been one of the leading independent sellers of great Big Agnes products, so we can attest to their innovations in quality outdoor products. And Air Core pads are one of our biggest sellers, which really says something.
Air Core pads are the lightest and most comfortable inflated sleeping pads in the world! These pads are so comfortable, you may end up throwing away your bed at home. Seriously, if you are a side sleeper, this pad is for you. The thick mattress allows you to sleep on your side without the pain in your hips. Gone are the days of flip-flopping through the night from one sore hip to the other.
# Light and compact summer pad, with 2.5" of comfort
# I-beam construction eliminates welded seams to reduce cold spots and ensures quick inflation/deflation, consistent air flow and stability
# Non-breakable brass valve with plastic coated EZ-Flate™ mouthpiece
# Durable 70D nylon top and bottom
# Internal polyurethane coating
# Add a closed cell foam pad in colder temperatures for extra insulation
# Store unrolled with valve open
# Stuff sack and repair kit included. The repair kit is in a small pocket on the inside of the stuff sack. It's sort of hidden, so look twice!
# Each pad individually inflated and tested
20" x 48" x 2.5" 35° 16oz
20" x 72" x 2.5" 35° 22oz
20" x 78" x 2.5" 35° 25oz

Campsaver.com

Big Agnes Air Core sleep pads are designed to provide years of comfortable nights in the backcountry. The air chamber pads have gained a huge following due to their light weight and small packed size. Big Agnes Air Core Pads are your ideal summer sleeping pad. Available in regular, long, and kids length as well as mummy and rectangular cut.Big Agnes Air Core sleep pads are designed to provide years of comfortable nights in the backcountry. The air chamber pads have gained a huge following due to their light weight and small packed size. Big Agnes Air Core Pads are your ideal summer sleeping pad. Available in regular, long, and kids length as well as mummy and rectangular cut.

Features:

  • 3 season Air Core
  • All Air Core Pads come with a stuff sack, repair kit, and a 100% guarantee
  • DWR coating sheds water and stains
  • Durable 40-denier nylon fabric protects against abrasions and punctures
  • Full length 2.5"" thick pad that is lightweight and packs small
  • I-beam construction makes inflation quick and easy
  • PU coating makes pad waterproof
  • Packs down to a compact compact sizes
  • Stuff sack and repair kit included
  • The I-beam construction technique is functionally superior to the typical welded-through construction of other air mats. Die cut holes in each I-beam allow air to flow freely between chambers as you move around for constant support and comfort.
  • Unique construction technique prevents the insulation from shifting inside the air chambers.

Altrec

Big Agnes sleeping pads are designed to provide years of comfortable nights in the backcountry. The Air Core air chamber sleeping pad has gained a huge following due to its light weight and small packed size. Performance features include durable 70D hexagonal rip-stop nylon top and 70D nylon bottom, internal polyurethane coating, non-breakable brass valve with plastic coated EZ-Flate™ mouthpiece, and I-beam construction that eliminates welded seams to reduce cold spots and ensures quick inflation/deflation. This pad is rated to 35 degrees comfort.

Features:

  • Add a closed cell foam pad in colder temperatures for extra insulation
  • Dimensions: Short - 20 x 48 x 2.5in, Regular - 20 x 72 x 2.5in, Long - 20 x 78 x 2.5in
  • EZ-Flate Valve instructions
  • Each pad individually inflated and tested
  • I-beam construction eliminates welded seams to reduce cold spots and ensures quick inflation/deflation, consistent air flow and stability
  • Internal polyurethane coating
  • Light and compact summer pad, with 2.5" of comfort
  • Material: Durable 70D hexagonal rip-stop nylon top and 70D nylon bottom
  • Non-breakable brass valve with plastic coated EZ-Flate mouthpiece
  • Rated to: 35 degrees
  • Repair kit small pocket on the inside of the stuff sack
  • Stuff sack and repair kit included
  • Weight: 22 oz (Regular)

Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS)

Extremely lightweight and compact, the Big Agnes® Aircore sleeping pad provides 2.5 inches of comfort.

Features:

  • Add a closed cell foam pad in colder temperatures for extra insulation
  • Compact alternative to self-inflating and air chamber pads
  • Durable 70D nylon top and bottom
  • EZ-Flate™ Valve instructions: Twist black part of valve counter-clockwise to open. Blow into valve to inflate. Hold gray portion of valve in mouth while spinning black portion clockwise to close.
  • Each pad individually inflated and tested
  • I-beam construction eliminates welded seams to reduce cold spots and ensures quick inflation/deflation, consistent air flow and stability
  • Internal polyurethane coating
  • Non-breakable brass valve with plastic coated EZ-Flate™ mouthpiece
  • Pad requires manual inflation
  • Repair kit is in a small pocket on the inside of the stuff sack - it's sort of hidden, so look twice
  • Store unrolled with valve open
  • Stuff sack and repair kit included

Paragon Sports

REM (Rest Easy Mama) Air Core Pad is the lightest and most comfortable inflatable mattress ever!

Features:

  • Brass valve seals tight due to its fine threading, making it completely air tight and impossible to break
  • Come with a stuff sack and a repair kit
  • Comfort rating to 35°
  • I-beam construction allows air to flow freely; can be inflated in two minutes
  • Made from durable nylon fabric with I-beam construction to provide longitudinal rigidity and maintain shape
  • Pad is waterproof and has a DWR (Durable Water Repellent) coating to shed moisture and stains
  • Provides a super-comfortable, whopping 2.5" thick backcountry bed for warm-weather trips
  • Very lightweight and compact--stuffs into the size of a Nalgene® bottle
  • When used with any Big Agnes sleeping bag, Air Core can be left in the pad sleeve, deflated and packed with the bag into the bag's stuff sack

Backcountry.com

Big Agnes REM Air Core Sleeping Pad is incredibly light and comfortable. The Big Agnes REM Air Core is made of a durable 70 denier nylon fabric. I-beam construction provides longitudinal rigidity and gives shape to the pad. The I-beam construction also allows air to flow freely in and out, and reduces inflation time to a quick two minutes. The Air Core pads stuff to the size of a Nalgene water bottle and weighs a mere 22oz (medium), yet provides a whopping 2.5” thick backcountry bed. When used with any Big Agnes sleeping bag, the Air Core pad can be left in the pad sleeve, deflated and stuffed with the bag right into its stuff sack. How's that for ingenuity? ALL REM SLEEP PADS COME WITH A STUFF SACK, REPAIR KIT, AND A 100% GUARANTEE.


REI

REM (Rest Easy Mama) Air Core Pad is the lightest and most comfortable inflatable mattress ever!

  • Made from durable nylon fabric with I-beam construction to provide longitudinal rigidity and maintain shape
  • I-beam construction allows air to flow freely; can be inflated in two minutes
  • Pad is waterproof and has a DWR (Durable Water Repellent) coating to shed moisture and stains
  • Brass valve seals tight due to its fine threading, making it completely air tight and impossible to break
  • Very lightweight and compact--stuffs into the size of a Nalgene® bottle
  • Provides a super-comfortable, whopping 2.5" thick backcountry bed for warm-weather trips
  • When used with any Big Agnes sleeping bag, Air Core can be left in the pad sleeve, deflated and packed with the bag into the bag's stuff sack
  • Comfort rating to 35°
  • Come with a stuff sack and a repair kit


Moosejaw

No description provided.

Average weight:25 ounces
Average weight - metric:0.71 kilograms
Country of Origin:China
Design type:Inflatable
Dimensions:78 x 20 x 2.5 inches
Dimensions - metric:198 x 51 x 6 centimeters
Gender:Unisex
Inflated Size:[Reg] 20 x 72 x 2.5", [Lng] 20 x 78 x 2.5", [Petite] 20 x 48 x 2.5"
Insulation:Air
Material:70 Denier nylon laminate
Packed size:4.5 x 8 inches
R Value:N/A (rated to 35F)
R-Value:1
Recommended Use:Any activity which requires a sleeping bag...and some that don't
Rolled Size:4 x 7.5" (Nalgene water bottle size)
Sleeping Pad Type:Manual Inflating
Sleeping pad shape:Rectangular
Storage Sack:No
Stuff Sack:Yes
Thickness:2.5 in.
Warranty:Lifetime
Weight:[Reg] 22oz, [Lng] 25oz, [Petite] 16oz

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Sometimes, we can't be sure that the product is the same across the stores that offer its, so you may find the same product listed more then once on GearBuyer.com, we these list highly similar products below.

Big Agnes Air Core Pad-RegularBig Agnes Air Core Pad-Regular$49.95
Big Agnes Air Core Mummy PadBig Agnes Air Core Mummy Pad$44.96 - $54.95
Big Agnes Insulated Air Core PadBig Agnes Insulated Air Core Pad$58.46 - $109.95
Big Agnes Insulated Air Core Sleeping Pad RegularBig Agnes Insulated Air Core Sleeping Pad Regular$79.95

Option Availability:

Use this chart to find which retailer offers this product in the size, color or other options that you desire. Click on the price to purchase.

SizeColor
Black / RedRed / Black
Red / Black
Red/ Black
Red/ Black
N/A
Petite 44.95  
Regular 49.95 44.95
Long 54.95 54.95
3   44.95
3/4 (2.5in) 44.95  
20x7854.95   
Short - square   44.95
Long - square   54.90
Regular - square   49.90
Long (2.5in) 44.95  
Regular - Mummy   49.90
Long - Mummy   54.90
N/A  54.9554.95 

Legend

  •     - ProLite Gear
  •     - Backcountry.com
  •     - Altrec
  •     - REI
  •     - Campsaver.com
  •     - Moosejaw
  •     - Paragon Sports

Notes:

Mountains Plus Outdoor Gear offers this product at $40.46, but does not provide any color/size information.

Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS) offers this product at $54.95, but does not provide any color/size information.

Big Agnes Air Core Pad Reviews Summary:

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Positive Reviews:

My new favorite sleeping pad!

Rating:*****

As a lifelong hiker, camper, river runner, outdoors woman, the goal has always been to find a sleep solution that strikes a balance between comfortable enough to get some good sleep and easy to pack for ultra light trips. My new Big Agnes 48" sleeping pad saw it's maiden voyage on this years 29th Annual River Run (2009) in Florida on the 3 day canoe trip. Many of you know that having gear that is multifunctional is a beautiful thing. This pad stayed in my small waterproof "emergency" bag just in case I found myself with no canoe and just my floating emergency sack (sh_t happens). I could easily be towed along behind a fellow river runner on top of my Big Agnes inflated sleeping pad. Fortunately, it didn't come to that, although Big Shoals was kicking as a strong class II whitewater thanks to the torrential rains before Memorial Weekend. So here's my advice on this mattress, do NOT over inflate. Inflate it until it seems fairly full then lie down (...on the mattress :-). The beauty of the nozzle is that you can gentle dial the valve open and closed while lying on the mattress until you feel yourself sink just to that sweet spot where you are not on the ground but you're getting into the mattress a bit. The comfort zone will vary for each person but the adjustment is so easy to do without losing all your air and fumbling to get the air closed off quick when you find that spot. I love it! As for the noise, I slipped mine into a lightweight fleece sleeping bag the second night and it really quieted down. Slept good. I'm 5'3" so the mattress came to my just below my knees when lying on my back. When I laid on my side with my knees comfortably (slightly) bent, I was totally on the mattress. I don't mind my feet hanging off the end when I'm on my back, it was actually quite comfortable. The trade off of going ultra light is well worth it for those who aren't camping with the luxury of your vehicle nearby and who understand that this isn't a pillow top mattress. OVERALL - I would buy another one if anything ever happens to this one. I'm impressed with the quality and versatility. Very happy with this purchase.

csc3099344 at Backcountry.com on 06/16/2009

Didn't even know this was possible!

Rating:*****

So I would like to preface this review with 2 things. The first being that before getting the Big Agnes REM Air Core I was always used old fashioned foam sleeping pads, which though lightweight, would need to be attached to the outside of my pack. Secondly, w e live in Florida and have only tested these in Florida and on summer excursions. I am told they will not suffice for winter but I will see. OK, so these pads are AMAZING. They pack down to the size of a Nalgene bottle (a 1L bottle) and they are more comfortable than anything I have ever slept on. They barely weigh anything and I do not notice it in my pack. It takes about 1-2 minutes to blow it up and it keeps its air all night. I have yet to wake up on the ground. They are a bit slippery and if you are camped on an incline you may find yourself at the foot of the tent in the morning. All in all I am blown away by the quality and convenience of this item. At $50 we bought 2 immediately and we never hit the backcountry without them!

nyr3041543 at Backcountry.com on 09/30/2009

Slept well, Took practice ...

Rating:****

Been using this pad now for a few weeks ... At times i miss my old prolite 4, but with some practice this pad can get the job done very well, 2 1/2 inches thick, but with little to no support .. like a pool float or regular air mattress ... Its the vertical beams that cause the dip when weight is put in a general single area ... Like others have said, took me about 15/17 breathes to inflate ... allow air to evaporate from temp changes, and before ya go to bed .. add 2-3 good puffs of air or till firm ... Lay down inside the bag and release air slowly, when you get that cozy but firm, don't sleep slumped, your back will hate you in the morning ... Will little practice i found my air levels and got used to the bounce from a no foam pad ... I don't miss my pl4 much nowadays cept for winter use ... One star off because it can be hard to find the gel comfort but with little practice and $50 .. this should not be the one peice you leave home ... no foam can compare.

Jason McElroy at Backcountry.com on 05/02/2009

REM Air Core Sleeping Pad

Rating:****

Just back from a two week trip where I slept every night on this pad. I used it with my new Big Agnes Cross Mountain bag that has a pocket to accomodate it. I was happy with the bag/pad combination (never coming off the pad is great) but must admit I was missing my Therm-a-Rest by the end of the trip. While extremely high quality (it is guaranteed for a lifetime and it may last that long), the pad does not have the "foam" feel I like in a sleeping pad. It basically feels like a pool float. It must be totally manually inflated to use, which takes about 20 breaths. On two of the nightes I was at a base camp and had a matress or cot to sleep on. But the nature of the pad required that I inflate it anyway, or remove it from the bag. I chose to inflate it. Not doing so would have left a crinkly liner that would have made noise every time I moved on it.

Wise One at Backcountry.com on 07/13/2004

Comfortable & Compact!

Rating:*****

The Big Agnes Air Core pad is GREAT for backpacking. It packs small, is lightweight, and is more comfortable than any self-inflating pad because it is 2-3 times thicker! The self-inflators also take up WAY more space when packed! At 20" it is a little narrow (one arm tends to go off the side when lying on my back) but I usually sleep on my side, and it's great for that. Easy to adjust firmness. It does take a little blowing to inflate, but it's worth it for the comfort. I use mine with a Slumberjack Ultimate +20degree bag, and it "squeaks" a little when you move around against the pad. But this is a very minor problem overall. This pad is rated for 35 degrees. For those who complain about it not being warm enough in cold weather, Big Agnes has an insulated pad for about $20 more rated at 15 degrees (also sold by BackCountry.com).

johndebc at Backcountry.com on 07/28/2008

Great Mattress!

Rating:*****

I just bought this about a month ago. I have slept on it the last three weekends. It is comfortable! In fact, I would say that it surpassed my expectations for comfort. It is also small and light to carry. I would definitely give it a 5 for comfort, weight and size. I am only 5'10" but I bought and would recommend the long version. The only drawbacks are that you have to inflate it yourself and it can take a few minutes to get all the air out of it so it can be folded enough to fit in the stuff bag. I have learned that if I open the valve when I first get up and then let it deflate on its own while I do other things in the morning then the folding goes easier. Inflation isn't a big deal. It only takes a couple of minutes.

Jeff From Oklahoma at Backcountry.com on 06/01/2004

Great 3 season pad

Rating:*****

While this is the only pad I've ever bought/tried, it more than exceeded my expectations. I found it to be SUPER comfortable, easy to inflate, and even easier to stuff back in its sack (I'm terrible at folding/compressing gear properly). My boyfriend was very jealous watching me sleep on top of this pad, since he was on only 1/4 inch pad, and I didn't find it to be noisy at all. The only negative was that I was very cold while sleeping. The pad is not rated well for warmth at all, and if you're going to be backpacking in 30 degree weather, you'll need some additional covering for it. Even in my 0 degree bag (it was about 25-30 degrees), both the pad and I were freezing. The only reason I was able to stay happy was because of the thickness/comfort of this pad!

bec2507588 at Backcountry.com on 11/26/2008

Light weight / handy for travel

Rating:****

I bought this pad to go on a trip to Hawaii with friends that have a time share - who I go with off & on. I end up staying on the pull out couch bed when we don't have a 2 bedroom condo. This pad was light weight enough to pack & not be over the limit. It really did the trick. The pull out bed in our condo wasn't a very good mattress & wasn't very comfortable, just like most of them I've had to sleep on.
I just took out this pad, blew up (takes very little time) plopped it on top of the mattress & slept well.
A great relief compared to past trips without it.
Definately handy! I recommend it to anyone who's traveling & has to be on a bed that might not end up being the best.

chris373353 at Backcountry.com on 05/25/2009

"Comfortable and can't beat the price"

Rating:****
I'm a big guy at 6ft 200lbs and wide enough that if it weren't for my sleeping bag my arms would hang off the side of the pad but even with that factored in I was plenty comfortable on the pad. The big concern with buying this over a foam pad was having to blow it up. It's really not a problem though. I would imagine using the pad with a Big Agnes bag would be the ultimate way to go but I used another brand and it was fine. I didn't feel like I was going to slip off the bag anytime during the night. The only slippage I had was due to putting the tent up on a slight incline and I'd have to scoot the bag up the grade a bit due to me twisting and turning.
Jason at Moosejaw on 09/30/2009

Very comfortable pad

Rating:****

At 2.5" thick, this pad has great cushion and is comfortable to sleep on. I like to let some air out after getting in my bag to soften it so it conforms to my body shape. Only problem for me is it's a little too thin, so one arm falls off if I'm on my back, but I often sleep on my side, so it's not a big deal. I've had no "hip on the ground" problems when side sleeping. I do use a pillow to get proper spine alignment. This thing packs down very small, especially compared to the self-inflating mats. This is my 3rd year using them and have had no leaks or problems. They are sturdy. You may want to check out the Big Agnes Pumphouse Pad Pump to inflate it without blowing your brains out.

johndebc at Backcountry.com on 09/11/2009

Negative Reviews:

Good as a pool toy

Rating:**
My wife and I bought two of these. We're both "toss and turn" sleepers and she fell off hers twice in one short evening. They were loud when you moved on them and tended to wake us up. If you're a heavy sleeper, this won't be a problem.
Did like that they folded up very compactly, were light weight, but we discovered the weight savings didn't compensate for a good nights sleep. Underinflated, we felt pressure points all night. Overinflated was a slippery experience and not so comfy.
We both agreed that this would be suitable for heavy sleepers, those who don't toss around, and makes a wonderful pool lounge.
Moonbrother at REI on 12/26/2007

will not stay inflated

Rating:*
took the sleeping pad on a test drive last night. in the morning I was sleeping on the hard ground. sometime in the middle of the night all the air came out. I will be returning this pad.
manta at REI on 06/06/2009

Neutral Reviews:

Adequate--as expected

Rating:***

I've only backpacked with it on two nights, so I don't know how durable it will be. It is the first inflatable mattress I have used. In my opinion, it was comfortable--I didn't feel the ground beneath me at all. I fumbled with the valve a bit before I figured out how to "top off" the air pressure without losing too much while I closed off the valve. Pressure was still good in the morning, so it didn't appear to have leaked at the seams or elsewhere. Material appears to be heavy duty. Weight isn't bad, and it fold up into a small roll.

If I had it to do again, I would buy the wider size because my shoulders are a bit too broad for this one when lying prone or on my back. My only complaint was that the bottom of the pad slips a bit on the tent floor. This is not a fault of the pad, I guess. But if you place your tent on a slight incline as I did and you roll or squirm a few times on your pad, you will find that the pad has migrated to the low side or end of the tent.

Hank at Backcountry.com on 03/11/2009

Good, but leaked after a while

Rating:***
I loved my Big Agnes pad, but after a couple years of use I noticed that by morning I was sleeping on a decidedly deflated pad. I tried finding the leak, and eventually determined that it was leaking a tiny bit from, well, everywhere. I think that the fabric had just stopped working to hold the air in.

The mattress is comfortable, but always seemed a bit hard to inflate. Now that I have a P.O.E. Therma 6 pad to compare it to, the Big Agnes was harder to inflate.

Still a good pad, and I got 2-3 years of good use out of it, so no major complaints. I do think it should have lasted a little longer though. I said I wouldn't recommend it to a friend merely because I like my P.O.E. pad better and would recommend it instead.
WolfSoul at REI on 09/20/2007

Compact, but noisy

Rating:***
This is a pretty ingenious product, but I feel it falls short of its goals. I use it with my Big Agnes Farwell bag and it works really well.....except for the noise. I'm a tosser/turner when sleeping and every time I move, it squeaks loud enough to not only wake me, but to wake my tent mate as well. If you are a sound sleeper, definitely recommended. Its light, compact and pretty comfortable, just noisy.
Bmansdad at REI on 05/18/2008

Much better than the ground

Rating:***

After reading these reviews, I was expecting to "sleep like a baby," as one of the reviewers said. While I sleep better than with a normal foam pad, I still woke up a lot and had to adjust my sleeping position constantly. Maybe I'm just a light sleeper, or maybe my expectations were too high. Regardless, I was a little disappointed.

npolaske at Backcountry.com on 03/27/2006

"Just OK"

Rating:***
It's small when packed and fat when blown up. So, good. It works well for summer camping. But... no integrated pillow - that seems like a no-brainer - and I think the valve is crap takes too long to deflate. Otherwise, the construction seems good and a piece that could have been better thought out.
Alex Hoobie at Moosejaw on 07/24/2008

Review Title

Rating:***

Good for the size. Look over your order more carefully than I did. I didn't catch that I was buying petite and this model had no larger sizes so I didn't return them or swap them out. They worked great for their size; better than I thought they would.

cli3172555 at Backcountry.com on 08/03/2009

On fence

Rating:***

Easy to blow up. Very small footprint for transport. I found it too small and uncomfortable. I will need a larger more comfy unit. I don't do any fastpacking so don't need one to be this small.

moo2627456 at Backcountry.com on 06/19/2009