I actually have the new LiveWire Quickdraw with the LiveWire carabiner making up the rope end. This is one great biner. The new shape and the little grippers on the spine makes this super easy to clip. They are a little pricier than most, but worth it when it comes to safety and confidence on a climb. Ok, I really bought these because they come in Michigan State green, but they are still great and I'm buying more!