I've used a lot of different bottom bouncers over the last 20 years or so and these are the best I've run across. They have a stiff enough wire that you feel everything. The R bend forces you to tie your line direct for the maximum sensitivity sent back to the rod. The quick change weights work very nice too. I was skeptical about spending the extra money these cost, but they are worth it. The only thing I could suggest is that they add some more weight choices.